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DELUSIONAL MSNBC on Biden Withdrawal: ‘Folks Will Say, Yep, He Received Us Out of There’

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Former Time journal managing editor, former Obama State Division official, and present MSNBC analyst Rick Stengel joined Deadline: White Home on Tuesday to react to President Biden’s newest speech on Afghanistan. Stengel predicted that when the historical past books are written, “folks will say, yep, he obtained us out of there.”

Stengel tried to supply historic analogies for his declare that the previous few weeks have been successful, “On the threat of seeming like an ivory tower professor, I simply need to put the withdrawal in historic context. This is a disastrous withdrawal: when the British left Afghanistan in 1842, 4,500 troops left Kabul and one Englishman 11 days later arrived in Jalalabad, that was a disastrous evacuation.”

 

 

After all, airplanes did not exist in 1842, that means British troops needed to make their method on foot practically 93 miles to Jalalabad. That wasn’t Stengel’s solely dangerous analogy, “This is one other one: When the British left India in 1947, 1948, simply pulled out. Over the following few years, two million folks died as that nation was divided in half. When the French left Algeria in 1962, a whole bunch of 1000’s of folks died, together with 1000’s and 1000’s of Frenchmen, and that nation continues to be not healed. These are disastrous withdrawals.

The British left as a colonial energy, not a navy ally who left their native allies and personal residents to the whims of a brutal enemy. As for France in Algeria, simply because it was not the worst-case state of affairs, does not imply it was successful, however that did not cease Stengel praising Biden for clearing the bottom of bars, “We do not know what the extent of a really disastrous withdrawal would have been. The counterfactuals are simply immense. I imply I feel when that is regarded again on, folks will say, yep, he obtained us out of there. A horrible tragedy that 13 American servicemen and girls died. We obtained 100,000 folks out.”

For one closing analogy, Stengel introduced up Saigon, “After we left Vietnam in 1975, you can argue that each member, each member, each citizen of South Vietnam labored for the People throughout that battle and we took a few thousand folks out. We left whereas we have been being fired upon by the enemy. , the nation was taken over. So these are disastrous withdrawals. I simply wished to place that in perspective.”

Stengel concluded by unconvincingly claiming, “I am not exonerating or explaining away what occurred. However that is just a few historic perspective.” The reality is the failure to anticipate the Taliban’s fast advance on Kabul led to a scenario the place folks amassed exterior the airport, offering a chance for the IS-Okay suicide bomber to kill 13 American servicemembers and scores of Afghan civilians. Historic analogies, and never excellent ones at that, do not change that.

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Here’s a transcript of the August 31show:

MSNBC

Deadline: White Home

4:27 PM ET

NICOLLE WALLACE: I might like your response to Jake, your response to Paul and to Helene’s reporting. Take your time. 

RICK STENGEL: Yeah. On the threat of seeming like an ivory tower professor, I simply need to put the withdrawal in historic context. This is a disastrous withdrawal: when the British left Afghanistan in 1842, 4,500 troops left Kabul and one Englishman 11 days later arrived in Jalalabad, that was a disastrous evacuation. This is one other one: When the British left India in 1947, 1948, simply pulled out. Over the following few years, 2 million folks died as that nation was divided in half. When the French left Algeria in 1962, a whole bunch of 1000’s of folks died, together with 1000’s and 1000’s of Frenchmen, and that nation continues to be not healed. These are disastrous withdrawals. We do not know what the extent of a really disastrous withdrawal would have been. The counterfactuals are simply immense. I imply I feel when that is regarded again on, folks will say, yep, he obtained us out of there. A horrible tragedy that 13 American servicemen and girls died. We obtained 100,000 folks out. After we left Vietnam in 1975, you can argue that each member, each member, each citizen of South Vietnam labored for the People throughout that battle and we took a few thousand folks out. We left whereas we have been being fired upon by the enemy. , the nation was taken over. So these are disastrous withdrawals. I simply wished to place that in perspective. I am not exonerating or explaining away what occurred. However that is just a few historic perspective.